Introducing Belief Gaps Season 2: Locked up (audio)

We started reporting Season 2 of Belief Gaps sooner than the world knew it might per chance perhaps per chance be grappling with a plague. It became once moreover sooner than the killing of George Floyd caused huge protests in opposition to racism and police brutality across the U.S. 

We speedy realized that these events are altering our society in surprising ways. At the identical time, they printed more starkly than ever the failings in our most complicated institutions – just like the criminal justice system.

Over six episodes, we explore these flaws by taking a scrutinize carefully at the spaces the place public perception would no longer align with the realities of the system. We dive into the complete lot from the historical previous of mass incarceration, to the feature imprisonment performs in American society this day, to the huge-ranging efforts to transform the institution. Be half of us for a transient discussion about our reporting, and what to anticipate in Belief Gaps: Locked up. 

Inform: Here’s the introduction episode to Season 2 of Belief Gaps. To eavesdrop on the assorted episodes, please consult with the season touchdown web page. 

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[Interview montage]

Charis Kubrin: The outlet between perception and reality stays sparkling firmly established… 

Spencer Piston: …performs a tall feature in shaping these gaps… 

Bernadette Rabuy: …annoying to a gigantic selection of of us… 

Jeremiah Bourgeois: …it is a unpleasant location…. 

Yasser Payne: …and the criminal justice system is an coarse system…  

Paula McClain: …perhaps there might be something more occurring… 

Laura Peña: …just a number of the perceptions that American citizens accept as true with…. 

Thaddeus Johnson: …are recuperating, nonetheless disparities quiet exist… 

Nazgol Ghandnoosh: …a honest damage in the promise of our criminal justice system…. 

Jonathan Lange: …and I don’t accept as true with any answers, I valid accept as true with questions. 

Samantha Laine Perfas: The criminal justice system is a tall, opaque system. We bag a gigantic selection of suggestions about the way in which it works from movies, reveals, and politics. But the reality is numerous than what most of us trace. Welcome to Belief Gaps: Locked up.

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I’m Samantha Laine Perfas, and I’m the host of The Christian Science Video show’s Belief Gaps. I’m joined in the studio this day by my colleagues, Henry Gass and Jessica Mendoza. Welcome, guys. 

Jessica Mendoza: Hiya, Sam. Thanks for having us. 

Henry Gass: Hi, Sam. 

Sam: And this day, we have acquired some thrilling news. Subsequent week, we will be launching season two, bringing you a total new lineup of episodes. 

Final season, we checked out ten numerous matters the place public perception didn’t line up with reality. 

This season, we’re specializing in a single topic: the criminal justice system. We will be taking you in the relieve of bars to explore misperceptions – round racial disparities in prisons and jails; the economics of incarceration; and the total cause of locking of us up. At last, we will hear from these which are attempting and tackle just a number of the system’s most pressing points.

Jess and Henry will likely be becoming a member of me each in the podcast and in the relieve of the scenes. 

So Jess, make you have to accept as true with to portion what that’s been like to this level?

Jess: I make. But sooner than we bag into the season, I desire our listeners to grab that Belief Gaps is your toddler. You purchased here up with it and executed it last time. What made you obtain out to make a second season? 

Sam: Successfully, to birth with, this podcast became once most efficient designed to be a dinky collection of 10 episodes. But what we realized became once that folks truly loved it and we continued to bag a ton of trot suggestions. Successfully, after the season ended with of us valid asking us to manufacture more episodes. So provided that and then the brand new native climate, we realized that correct now it be particularly tricky to grab what’s correct and what is rarely truly. This podcast creates that rental for of us to acknowledge that they would perhaps presumably also simply no longer know the complete lot, and that’s the reason OK. 

After we determined to make a second season earlier this year, I approached you guys, Henry and Jess, to be aware of about for these that wanted to collaborate with me. And you said trot. And it be been superior. Or no longer it is allowed us to make issues this season that we couldn’t make last season, comparable to on the floor reporting, and to truly hyper-tackle one topic. 

Speaking of which, Henry, I would truly like to hear your standpoint on this. You are our criminal justice reporter. So once I approached you about participating on Belief Gaps, what had been your thoughts on tackling this bother and the way in which has it been for you reporting this season? 

Henry: If truth be told, I would voice like my first thought when, for these that approached me about maintain of a Season 2 centered on the criminal justice system is, Which segment? The justice system is noteworthy bigger and more complicated than I focus on many of us trace. And it be more than valid prisons. Or no longer it is more than valid the courts. There is so many, a gigantic selection of layers of complexity that on one hand, it might per chance perhaps per chance be truly attention-grabbing to explore and on one more hand, it be valid a in point of fact tall beast to utilize a scrutinize at and – are attempting and tackle. But, you know, the more the more I talked about it with you and provided that, you know, all of the season would possibly be centered on it, maintain of the more indignant I acquired. 

Total, it be – it be been tall. I’ve loved having the ability to relief out with it and make it in this new format and in such a deep and nuanced manner. 

Sam: And Jess what about you? What has been the strongest segment of the collection for you? 

Jess: I focus on a few issues. After we started reporting this relieve in January and February, I became once already truly indignant. It gave the look of there became once loads to explore and the basis of doing it via a podcast became once valid tall challenging for me. But as we proceeded with reporting and 2020 maintain of unfolded, it became once truly placing to be aware of about how linked the reviews we had been telling that we had been reporting already had been to issues just like the coronavirus pandemic or the protests following the killing of George Floyd. And discovering these connections became once truly a confirmation of why this is such predominant work. 

The more than just a few thing is, you know, my background is in writing, like Henry. But there might be something about audio that truly feels very internal most. I’ve spent a gigantic selection of time with the discipline cloth at this level. And I focus on listening to these voices truly be in contact to us, whether they’re experts or of us sharing their internal most experiences, work experiences, with us. Or no longer it is something I’m truly indignant for our listeners to, to hear and to abilities for themselves. 

Which is a tall demonstrate ask you, Sam: How can they eavesdrop on this podcast? 

Sam: The most realistic thing you are going to make is move to our web advise, csmonitor.com/perceptiongaps. That you would possibly eavesdrop on all of the episodes. They’re correct on that web page. And you are going to moreover obtain links to your popular podcast gamers. That you would possibly moreover join our free e-newsletter to bag the episode despatched correct to your inbox every week. We consist of bonus supplies in the relieve of the scenes takes, numerous articles, photos, movies. But once more, the web advise is csmonitor.com/perceptiongaps. Jess, Henry: Before we leave our listeners, is there the relaxation that you just truly desire to add? 

Henry: I focus on it be in any appreciate times tall to bag to utilize a scrutinize at and quilt this. The justice system in new ways, because of it is maintain of nearly intentionally. And a gigantic selection of ways opaque. So something that we can make to manufacture it maintain of more accessible and understandable for the public is tall. Given all of the issues which accept as true with been occurring this year, I focus on it be truly, truly effectively timed and anxious and offers us loads to struggle with and relief listeners and readers and every person who follows them on the threshold to uncover it irresistible. 

Jess: Yeah, and I valid desire to add that we have acquired a gigantic selection of tall voices, a gigantic selection of tall reviews this season. So whether you might per chance very effectively be a longtime Video show reader who’s valid attempting out podcasts for the principle time otherwise you have not had a gigantic selection of abilities with the Video show, nonetheless you want audio. We truly, truly hope that you just join us on this accelerate and confidently you eye something meaningful to you for these that eavesdrop on all of our – all of our episodes. 

Sam: And I make desire to claim honest rapid: to all of our returning listeners, thanks. Because with out you and your improve, we wouldn’t be here doing a second season. And to all of our new listeners, we’re truly indignant to accept as true with you ever. So, again, yow will stumble on the complete lot at csmonitor.com/perceptiongaps.

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